tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post1923945853633520183..comments2023-09-16T11:33:16.016+02:00Comments on Horse Of Course: FEI bans RollkurHorseOfCoursehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15907659164579327290noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-86719091978867459882010-02-13T18:45:28.059+01:002010-02-13T18:45:28.059+01:00Thanks for your comments!
RB- we will see what ha...Thanks for your comments!<br /><br />RB- we will see what happens. I so much hope that we will see a difference.<br /><br />Shanster - I agree with you. It is sad we need laws. Here we have the most wonderful, tolerating animal in the world, and look what people do to them for money's sake.<br /><br />Mugs - yes. Maybe surveillance cameras would help. It is not easy for the stewards to speak up against powerful people. I believe all the discussions lately can help to give extra courage, and with camera proof in addition it might help.HorseOfCoursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907659164579327290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-12728403506232837912010-02-13T05:34:55.754+01:002010-02-13T05:34:55.754+01:00This is wonderful. I would like to see the same sa...This is wonderful. I would like to see the same sanctions and cameras in the warm-up pens in our world.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-67563026592831146882010-02-11T02:11:47.950+01:002010-02-11T02:11:47.950+01:00Good news! Guarded optimism... people are sneaky ...Good news! Guarded optimism... people are sneaky and find ways around regulations and rules.<br /><br />I worked at a gov't agency that tries to enforce the Horse Protection Act... the act that is supposed to prevent soring of gaited horses. It was sad to see we even NEED laws telling us this - same with rolkur. <br /><br />The abuses go on but people learn to hide them or when the gov't agency shows up - the sticklers - people scratch and go home. Violence has risen against the enforcers...and the stewards alone don't do much because of the big names involved. They tried self regulation and training but it didn't work very well.<br /><br />I think this is similar. We'll see a stretching of the regs and a qualitative view of how to define the rules but it IS a start!<br /><br />The FEI sees there are big names against it and numbers as well. Numbers affect membership/entries, these things affect money...money talks. That is a good thing.Shansterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04397551985965117012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-13456167445220332562010-02-10T18:42:34.133+01:002010-02-10T18:42:34.133+01:00I think you are absolutely right, Maria. After all...I think you are absolutely right, Maria. After all, most changes worth making are neither fast nor easy. The conversation is going and with all the support of big names, I don't see it being dropped any time soon.<br /><br />And optimism is good! Without hope there would be nothing to do but give in. I don't see that happening either. Interesting observation about the photo...I'm off to go check it out.RuckusButthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14760056031442317243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-24451488456526563892010-02-10T15:52:25.294+01:002010-02-10T15:52:25.294+01:00I do believe that the number of signatures makes a...I do believe that the number of signatures makes an impression.<br />I also do believe that the letter from Klaus Balkenhol and others also has made an impact.<br /><br />If it is enough to make a change, time will show.<br /><br />Maybe we will experience that all is as before, but then we just have to make our voices heard again, right?<br /><br />There might have been a need to calm the situation down, and the formulation of the statement sure bears sign of that. But it all comes down to what will be defined as "aggressive riding" and "LDR" compared to rollkur, and what kind of instructions the stewards will get, doesn't it?<br />And we have not seen the outcome of that yet. <br />Personally (but again, maybe I am too optimistic) I do not think they dare to do nothing.<br /><br />Please also have a look at the enclosed photo on the FEI site. A row of smiling faces, but one person stands with crossed arms and is looking slightly sullen. Sjef Jansen.<br />Whether this is a coincidence or not, I do not know.HorseOfCoursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907659164579327290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-13095229841008275682010-02-10T14:14:58.991+01:002010-02-10T14:14:58.991+01:00I applaud your optimism Maria, but I just feel tha...I applaud your optimism Maria, but I just feel that nothing will change. Anky Van herself is now stating that she trains with LDR (Low Deep and Round), but it's really just Rollkur!<br />And the FEI will allow LDR!! I agree with Ruckusbut, they've just created themselves a great big loophole.Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05077382147781767424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-20454989791909980832010-02-10T03:28:50.396+01:002010-02-10T03:28:50.396+01:00I wish I were as optimistic as you, HoC. I DO thin...I wish I were as optimistic as you, HoC. I DO think it is a step in the right direction but I worry that the FEI has merely created a loophole with the redefinition of hyperflexion and allowance of LDR. Horses that are trained with rollkur will no doubt offer it without aggression or force at a show. How then will they prove aggressive training/riding?<br /><br />Like you say, time will tell how the definition plays out and how new guidelines are used.RuckusButthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14760056031442317243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-33080253278319133962010-02-09T23:06:42.474+01:002010-02-09T23:06:42.474+01:00Wolfie - I believe that whether this will prove to...Wolfie - I believe that whether this will prove to be a real change or not lies in what intructions the stewards will get in the new guidelines.<br /><br />Again - I do not believe that all those people that have signed the petitions will silently stand by if nothing happens.<br />The ball has started to roll.<br />We just have to make sure it keeps moving.HorseOfCoursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907659164579327290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7174443062971389868.post-23539632881431834272010-02-09T22:11:24.429+01:002010-02-09T22:11:24.429+01:00This is definitely a step in the right direction. ...This is definitely a step in the right direction. I am very pleased to hear this. I think there will be some noise made about having cameras in the warm up areas (privacy), but I think it is a good suggestion. We have cameras at traffic lights, in banks, in shops, etc. If these riders are supposed to abide by FEI rules and guidelines, then I don't see a problem with having cameras in warm up areas of events.Wolfiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743943656869294788noreply@blogger.com